"I will take my chances with the visionaries."

Social work professor and author Ben Carniol blows the whistle on the crisis within Canada's social services.

by Candice Carto, January 2000


At the turn of the new century, the operations of Canadian social services face a renewed attack. Conventional thinking and common myths about "clients" or "caseloads" negate their egalitarian efforts. Business leaders and governments continue to fuel their self-destruction. Subject to government policies, public ambivalence, and corporate elitism, social service workers are looking for ways to create a system far more democratic, interdependent, and caring than today.

Recently, I sat down with Ben Carniol, author of Case Critical: Challenging Social Services in Canada to discuss the current experiences of both users and providers of Canada's social services. In this fourth edition, Carniol examines the obstacles to clients receiving decent services, as well as the so-called inevitability of the widening margin between the rich and the poor. Calling for a move towards a participatory democracy, in addition to a personal and political liberation from corporate control, Carniol had strong feelings to share about the current direction of Canada's social programs.

Candice Carto: As a veteran within the field of social work, what would you say are some of the most difficult obstacles that face young people entering the field today?

Ben Carniol: Students entering social work, for the most part, come out of high school with distorted impressions about Canada's social services and programs. They are under false illusions about the system, and believe, rather erroneously, that there are sufficient resources for those people who are in need. This type of naivete about the system, however, is dangerous as it only serves to propagate the notion that the clients themselves are to blame.

CC: What can be done to remedy such misconceptions?

BC: Newcomers to this field need to realize there is a balance in play here. Certainly, some people with severe mental or addiction problems have more difficulty escaping their current plight. But, there are strongly entrenched problems, such as racism, ageism, and sexism that cannot be ignored. Ultimately, new students must reassess the width of their lens of analysis. Sadly, for many of them, it remains quite narrow.

CC: It seems that within the field of social work a hierarchy exists among "clients," where some are deemed more deserving of our time, effort, and ultimately, tax dollars.

BC: Yes, unfortunately that's true.

CC: From where does such a notion derive?

BC: Today, people like to think in terms of the worthy and unworthy poor. For example, abused or impoverished children are seen as innocent bystanders or victims. Then, there are the homeless, often seen as creators of their own problems. People who make these kinds of assumptions are not looking at the big picture. They are not looking at the real personal biographies of these individuals. One must consider what a person has been through or experienced before making such rash judgments.

CC: Speaking of rash judgements, recently there has been controversy and debate concerning Globe and Mail reporter, John Stackhouse and his three-part series on the homelessness situation in Canada. What are your thoughts about his seven-day experiment on the streets of Toronto?

BC: For starters, I think his experiment was far too limited, superficial. Perhaps if he remained on the streets for six months, or even a year, maybe then his conclusions would have more validity. But to "live" on the streets for a week… Not only does it do a disservice to people living on the streets, but it also feeds into the negative impression of the homeless altogether. People do not live on the streets because it is their choice to do so. Nothing could be further from the truth.

CC: In the new edition of Case Critical, you explain how your own experiences as a foster child led you to a career in social work. Do you think others coming into the field are motivated by similar first-hand experiences with Canada's social system?

BC: Yes, I think it's a definite possibility. Yet, different people handle trauma and personal affliction in different ways. There are some people who prefer to forget, or turn their backs on their past traumas. And then there are those like myself, who use the hurts and pains from the past to their advantage. They rely on their own experiences to better understand and help others through their own personal difficulties. For me, the latter of the two is more effective. This is how one learns to grow and heal. Negating issues from the past only causes them to re-surface in the future.

CC: What does it mean to be a "professional" social worker?

BC: The professional social worker is one who is able to recognize the limitation of his/her own power. By that I mean, they are able to realize that bigger forces at work, a larger structure that must be continually re-examined and re-assessed. Professional social workers must also acknowledge the partnership they form with the client. The relationship needs to be mutual and reciprocal. Not elitist. The social worker must always keep in mind that he/she must work with, rather than for, the client in question.

CC: You mention that one of the most important functions of your book is that it "gives clients a stronger voice." In what other ways are clients able to achieve such strength?

BC: Clients are also able to gain a stronger voice by becoming aware that a lot of their hurts and wounds are the result of an unjust society. Having said that, they also need to be conscious that they cannot only look to the government to bring about changes. The real motors or initiators of change come from grassroots, community networks who have developed a critical consciousness about what is wrong and how to change it. These are the groups who recognize the negative impact of corporate elites--not only within Canada but globally. When these grassroots networks decide to take action, they often put pressure on the larger political and corporate structures. The recent large-scale demonstration in Seattle against the World Trade Organization proved this. To achieve a higher priority for individual and community well-being, we need to translate democracy from rhetoric into action.

CC: Some might argue that your book only pertains to social workers and academics within this field. Why do you say that Case Critical is also meant for the general public as well?

BC: While it's true that the book is grounded in a social science analysis, the topics addressed within its covers - education, health care, affordable housing, daycare -- apply to everyone, regardless of age, sex, colour, religion, and sexual preference. This book deals with a fundamental question: What kind of society do we want to build? This is a question not owned by just social workers or professors. It affects everyone. We all have a responsibility to be active in shaping the future of our entire global arena. Citizenship is not restricted.

CC: In this forthcoming edition, you include more personal anecdotes and experiences as they relate to the context of social work. What's the value of this?

BC: In this edition, I tried to share with readers what keeps me going. I wanted to show people how to hang in there, despite the myriad obstacles within the social system. For me, maintaining a spiritual focus has been the key. Too often, religions have supported the powers-that-be that have oppressed people. At the same time, within various faith communities, there are individuals who tap into their spirituality to challenge unjust practices. Fortunately, I have found such people within my own Jewish community--they are courageous people willing to go against the grain and speak out for social justice. I'm trying to do the same as it relates to the crisis of our social services. It is my hope that through writing this book, I can provide some of that same motivation and incentive for others too.

CC: In the last chapter of the book you maintain that a strong link must be established among all areas of social movements if ever we expect to ensure real, global social change.

BC: Absolutely. Alone, various social movements can succeed to certain degree. However, unless we identify the common threads and form alliances, in the end, we'll all just be spinning our wheels.

CC: Some might argue that this notion, while admirable, is quite unrealistic.

BC: No one has access to a crystal ball. It all comes down to how we view ourselves as humans. If we believe that all humans are inherently selfish and that we are only out to serve ourselves, well then we will remain as such -- self-serving and completely egotistic. However, if we have a different understanding of humans, if we believe that we are interdependent creatures not isolated from one another, we will act in accordance with this perception.

CC: What about the cynics who may continue to argue that forming such a social coalition cannot be done?

BC: Time and time again, the cynics of the world have been proven wrong. Look at the case of the Women's Movement. For a long time, no one believed women would ever get the vote. But they did. Why? Because they recognized the need for interdependence and they leaned on each other. In the end, they were victorious and the cynics were proven wrong. Look at the apartheid issue in South Africa. Again, people believed that the situation would never change, but it did. Why? Because people pulled together and fought for what they believed was right. And so, the cynics were proven wrong once again.

CC: Sounds like you're a firm believer in perseverance and the power of positive thinking?

BC: (nods and smiles) Definitely, but it's more than that. When push comes to shove, I will take my chances with the visionaries. People who support the notion that it is well within our basic human nature to pull together to bring about a greater health of the world. People who believe strongly that change is possible. That's where our future lies.

 

Ben Carniol is a Professor of Social Work at Ryerson Polytechnic University in Toronto. He spent over thirty years in advocacy within social services and is active with several community groups, including the Metro Network for Social Justice.


 

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